Comments for Chuck's Words http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog Some Random Thoughts Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:55:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on CALug Feb 11 Feat. Riddell and Kirby by Chuck http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/2010/02/05/calug-feb-11-feat-riddell-and-kirby/comment-page-1/#comment-561 Chuck Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:55:43 +0000 http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/?p=181#comment-561 At this point I have to suggest you take it up with Jonathan himself. The way I read the post you refer to it sounds like that the people in question started the uploads and the core of the idea for Kubuntu and of the KDE packages. Jonathan's role may have come later. I don't know what his role was. However I'd be surprised if he's making a claim like this without there being something to substantiate the story. At this point I have to suggest you take it up with Jonathan himself.

The way I read the post you refer to it sounds like that the people in question started the uploads and the core of the idea for Kubuntu and of the KDE packages. Jonathan’s role may have come later. I don’t know what his role was. However I’d be surprised if he’s making a claim like this without there being something to substantiate the story.

]]> Comment on CALug Feb 11 Feat. Riddell and Kirby by shermann http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/2010/02/05/calug-feb-11-feat-riddell-and-kirby/comment-page-1/#comment-560 shermann Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:38:32 +0000 http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/?p=181#comment-560 Find it here: Quote: More discussions about the project to build a KDE version of Ubuntu, called Kubuntu, went on in Mataró. There's not a lot to report yet but it's being driven by Chris Halls and Andreas Mueller who are both new Ubuntu developers and have experience with KDE work in Debian. Found at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2005-January/000014.html Regards, \sh Find it here:
Quote:
More discussions about the project to build a KDE version of Ubuntu, called
Kubuntu, went on in Mataró. There’s not a lot to report yet but it’s being
driven by Chris Halls and Andreas Mueller who are both new Ubuntu developers
and have experience with KDE work in Debian.

Found at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2005-January/000014.html

Regards,

\sh

]]> Comment on CALug Feb 11 Feat. Riddell and Kirby by Chuck http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/2010/02/05/calug-feb-11-feat-riddell-and-kirby/comment-page-1/#comment-558 Chuck Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:15:28 +0000 http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/?p=181#comment-558 That was the information Jonathan sent me. I have no reason to doubt it unless you can provide me with some references. That was the information Jonathan sent me.

I have no reason to doubt it unless you can provide me with some references.

]]> Comment on CALug Feb 11 Feat. Riddell and Kirby by shermann http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/2010/02/05/calug-feb-11-feat-riddell-and-kirby/comment-page-1/#comment-551 shermann Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:45:08 +0000 http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/?p=181#comment-551 Hmmm.. as long history goes, Kubuntu was invented by Chris Halls and Andreas Mueller... AFAIK, \sh Hmmm..

as long history goes, Kubuntu was invented by Chris Halls and Andreas Mueller…

AFAIK,

\sh

]]> Comment on Forced Changes In My Browser by Sebastian Thürrschmi http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/2010/01/26/forced-changes-in-my-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-546 Sebastian Thürrschmi Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:36:17 +0000 http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/?p=179#comment-546 people who say ‘you broke my internet/browser’ Come one, GNU/Linux is not Windows, Ubuntu is not Microsoft (only getting there, veeery slowly ;)), and Firefox is not IE! The average Ubuntu user is much, much smarter than that. Maybe she'll be slightly irritated when first searching the web after upgrading to Lucid, but for no longer than the few seconds it takes to change the default back to the right search engine. people who say ‘you broke my internet/browser’

Come one, GNU/Linux is not Windows, Ubuntu is not Microsoft (only getting there, veeery slowly ;) ), and Firefox is not IE! The average Ubuntu user is much, much smarter than that. Maybe she’ll be slightly irritated when first searching the web after upgrading to Lucid, but for no longer than the few seconds it takes to change the default back to the right search engine.

]]> Comment on Forced Changes In My Browser by Fabian http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/2010/01/26/forced-changes-in-my-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-545 Fabian Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:04:40 +0000 http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/?p=179#comment-545 Hmm, so you guess the deal is only one sided for Ubuntu? Really nobel from Microsoft. But what if Ubuntu makes 1 cent per search through Yahoo/Bing but at the same time Microsoft makes 2 cents due to the delivered advertisement? Whom do you help more Ubuntu or Micrsoft? Hmm, so you guess the deal is only one sided for Ubuntu? Really nobel from Microsoft.

But what if Ubuntu makes 1 cent per search through Yahoo/Bing but at the same time Microsoft makes 2 cents due to the delivered advertisement?

Whom do you help more Ubuntu or Micrsoft?

]]> Comment on Forced Changes In My Browser by Stephen Michael Kellat http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/2010/01/26/forced-changes-in-my-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-544 Stephen Michael Kellat Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:48:46 +0000 http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/?p=179#comment-544 In light of Google possibly abandoning the Chinese market while Yahoo! is staying put, would this not instead be considered an inclusive measure? Staying with using Google in this instance does not make this human-friendly computing as it instead singles out an national grouping for exclusion. In light of Google possibly abandoning the Chinese market while Yahoo! is staying put, would this not instead be considered an inclusive measure? Staying with using Google in this instance does not make this human-friendly computing as it instead singles out an national grouping for exclusion.

]]> Comment on Forced Changes In My Browser by Chuck http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/2010/01/26/forced-changes-in-my-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-543 Chuck Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:37:48 +0000 http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/?p=179#comment-543 My issue is not Canonical finding ways to profit. My issue is the lack of choice on the upgrade from the previous default. Defaults tend to be popular choices. Many people choose google as their search not only because it is the default option. Those people will be affected due to this change. On a fresh install the change is not a big deal. A different default for a new version. On an upgrade the user's choices should be respected. My issue is not Canonical finding ways to profit. My issue is the lack of choice on the upgrade from the previous default.

Defaults tend to be popular choices. Many people choose google as their search not only because it is the default option. Those people will be affected due to this change.

On a fresh install the change is not a big deal. A different default for a new version. On an upgrade the user’s choices should be respected.

]]> Comment on Forced Changes In My Browser by Chuck http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/2010/01/26/forced-changes-in-my-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-542 Chuck Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:35:21 +0000 http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/?p=179#comment-542 As you say, it is two clicks to change it after annoying the end user. With my suggestion it is one click, explains to the user why one selection would help the Ubuntu project and allow the user to make a choice. For those that don't care about the particular search engine they'll likely choose the one that supports the project. Simply changing the search to Yahoo will not explain to the user that it is a revenue sharing deal that will benefit the project. It will be an annoyance for those that prefer Google, their previous choice. As you say, it is two clicks to change it after annoying the end user.

With my suggestion it is one click, explains to the user why one selection would help the Ubuntu project and allow the user to make a choice. For those that don’t care about the particular search engine they’ll likely choose the one that supports the project.

Simply changing the search to Yahoo will not explain to the user that it is a revenue sharing deal that will benefit the project. It will be an annoyance for those that prefer Google, their previous choice.

]]> Comment on Forced Changes In My Browser by Zac http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/2010/01/26/forced-changes-in-my-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-541 Zac Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:05:19 +0000 http://www.chuckfrain.net/blog/?p=179#comment-541 I do not like Yahoo because it is powered by Microsoft's Bing. However, I do support this strategic move if it gives some revenue which then can be funnelled into Linux. Sometimes one has to give little in order to move forward, but never lose site of the goal. This is what Canonical is doing. I consider it a smart, yet bold move which is sure to rub some Linux users the wrong way. I do not like Yahoo because it is powered by Microsoft’s Bing.

However, I do support this strategic move if it gives some revenue which then can be funnelled into Linux.

Sometimes one has to give little in order to move forward, but never lose site of the goal. This is what Canonical is doing. I consider it a smart, yet bold move which is sure to rub some Linux users the wrong way.

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